Whether you think we should leave or remain, as far as I can see these are the facts:
- For the past 40 years, the EU have been getting the blame for a lot of problems. Some of this is deserved, some of it is scape goating.
- In 2016 the Prime Minister, David Cameron, committed to doing "my best" to implement the result of the referendum.
- David Cameron arranged for parliament to legislate for an advisory referendum.
- Campaigns commenced, in which both sides lied. They stated things about our current relationship with the EU which were demonstrably untrue (or at the very least, were designed to mislead), they continued to do so after evidence was presented showing they were untrue, and they presented their predictions as fact - both sides said certain things would definitely happen if we voted to leave, and that certain things would definitely happen if we voted to remain.
- Several of the big campaigns broke the law (and this has since been proved in court.
- The referendum was held, in which 52% of voters voted to "leave" and 48% voted to "remain". Both options were unqualified as to exactly what they meant.
- David Cameron demonstrated what doing "my best" entailed by immediately quitting and leaving the problem to Theresa May.
- Parliament is made up of MPs who have direct contact with their constituents, but the government didn't try to gauge Parliament's understanding of what their constituents wanted from brexit, and therefore what Parliament were likely to support.
- The Conservative government interpreted the referendum result as meaning that a "hard" brexit should be implemented and started work to take us out of the single market.
- Parliament voted to start the process of us leaving the EU. 81% voted to start the process, 19% voted not to start the process.
- Despite 81% of the MPs apparently supporting leaving (at least, they voted to start the process), the government felt they didn't have a big enough majority to push through a "hard brexit", so called a general election.
- In 2017, the public democratically elected a new parliament, and the Conservative party lost their majority, but stayed in power as a minority government.
- The government's strategy to leave the EU remained unchanged despite the new mix of MPs - they were still negotiating a hard Brexit with no input from the new Parliament. The MPs are elected to represent all of their constituents, but the government didn't consult with them to see what the constituents wanted from brexit, and therefore what Parliament would support.
- The government negotiated a "hard brexit" deal with the EU and then asked Parliament to support it. Parliament refused to support it, which might not be surprising since the government had never asked if their view of brexit matched up with the views of the MPs.
- Courts ruled that there had been a lot of wrong-doing during the referendum, but that they couldn't invalidate the result because it had been legislated as an "advisory" referendum, despite David Cameron pledging to implement whatever the result was. If the referendum had not been "advisory", its likely that the result would have been declared invalid and the whole thing re-run to make sure the public.
- There is testimony from an expert that there's good reason to believe that the illegal behaviour significantly affected the referendum result. This is obviously expert opinion rather than provable fact.
- In 2019, Boris Johnson took over as Prime Minister. One of his first acts was to prorogue (suspend) Parliament. This would reduce the amount of time available to Parliament and likely reduce the amount of influence Parliament has over brexit. I'm not commenting on why he is proroguing Parliament, only that he is and it has an impact.
- Boris Johnson has stated that he believes he will get a last minute deal from the EU, but that if he doesn't we will leave without a deal.
- The vast majority of MPs in Parliament have indicated that they don't support the UK leaving without a deal.
- The majority of MPs have indicated that they don't support risking a no-deal brexit. There is good indication that many of them simply don't believe that the Prime Minister will get a deal.
- The Prime Minister reportedly hasn't actually tried to negotiate with the EU, which probably makes MPs less inclined to believe he will get a deal.
- Parliament have voted to prevent a no-deal brexit from happening.
OpinionSo, I've tried to be as factual as possible up until now. I don't think you can reasonably argue that any of the facts above are untrue. Certainly I've seen people dismiss expert opinion with comments like "oh but that expert is a remainer so their opinion doesn't count", but that doesn't change the fact that an expert has expressed an opinion.
This is where things get a bit more murky, because I'm putting my opinion forward rather than just sticking to the facts. But I've tried to think critically and logically about this in light of all the facts.
Firstly, I think dismissing expert opinions as irrelevant because they might have some bias is a shame - all experts on both sides have valuable things to say. But notably, most of the expert opinion I have seen is that leaving without a deal is going to cause big problems. Conversely, the claims that everything will be fine always seem to be made by people who are not experts in the relevant field. If you think it'll all be fine then that's great - go look at the evidence, reason critically and present your findings. If you're not an expert and you're not prepared to present any evidence, please forgive me if I choose to believe the people who are qualified in the relevant field or are presenting compelling evidence.
Now, I have a problem with the original interpretation that the public voted for a "hard-brexit" for two reasons: Firstly, because the official Vote Leave campaign, and several other campaigns explicitly stated that voting "leave" would not lead to us leaving the single market, and as the referendum itself didn't specify one way or the other, there is absolutely no indication that this is what the majority actually wanted; and secondly because the voters only voted to leave by a fairly slim majority, so reasonably a government should also be working to accommodate the significant minority too. It seems to me that it would have been more reasonable for the government to try and accommodate both sides by taking some middle ground and heading for the "Norway solution", and indeed that is what most of the high profile campaigners on the "leave" side had been promoting immediately prior to the referendum.
Secondly, the government has put about more and more rhetoric that people voted to leave the EU at any cost, and that a no-deal brexit is "the will of the people". Since there seems to be a problem demonstrating that the public voted for a "hard brexit", demonstrating that they voted for a no-deal seems even more of a problem. I've heard it said that David Cameron is on video saying, prior to the referendum, that a no-deal is a possibility, but I've not seen this video, nor been able to find it. Regardless, the official Vote Leave campaign, and most of the other big "leave" campaigns didn't discuss this possibility, so I don't think you can reasonably say that people expected it to happen as a result of voting to leave the EU.
My summary on this is: if the referendum result doesn't clearly show that people voted for a "hard-brexit" or "no-deal" brexit, rather than one of the many other types that were possible, you need to actually ask rather than just making it up.
Thirdly, the idea that Parliament preventing a no-deal is somehow undemocratic doesn't seem to make sense: MPs are elected to represent all of their constituents. In order to do this they talk to constituents, etc. and if their constituents are overwhelmingly against no-deal they have an obligation to represent that view and vote against a no-deal..
Similarly, I've seen claims that Parliament doesn't represent "the will of the people" because most MPs are in favour of remaining. I can't comment on whether a majority of MPs actually are in favour of remaining these days (I don't think there has been any indicative vote on that?) but you can't forget that they were democratically elected a year after the original referendum. If a constituency still wanted to leave the EU, they wouldn't have elected an MP who supports remaining. It seems only reasonable to assume that the current mix of MPs is reasonably representative of their constituencies, so if they are at odds with the referendum that seems to be all the more reason to suspect that the referendum result is no longer an accurate representation of "the will of the people". Similarly, its important to remember that many of the current MPs weren't the ones who voted to start the process of us leaving, many weren't the ones who voted to have a referendum in the first place, and many were elected on a manifesto of not supporting brexit.
Finally, if you have a democratically elected Parliament, the idea that it is ok to use constitutional loopholes to prevent them from overturning a referendum that happened long before they were elected seems bonkers. People change their minds, and you can't argue that a "remain" supporting MP who was elected in 2017 shouldn't be allowed to represent those views because their constituency voted "leave" in 2016 doesn't make sense - if the people of a "leave" voting constituency still wanted to leave, why would they have elected a "remain" supporting MP?
Democratically elected MPs who stand up for what they honestly believe their constituents now want, rather than what they wanted 3 years ago, are not "traitors" - please stop calling them that. "Traitor" is not synonymous with "has s slightly different vision of brexit than me".
And last, but not least, comments like "the EU aren't trying to give us a good deal" make absolutely no sense at all. The EU's obligations are to negotiate in a way that benefits their members, they are not obliged to give us a good deal. If we're lucky, there will be overlap between things that benefit them and things that benefit us, and that's where a good deal for both sides comes from. But the EU isn't going to harm themselves in order to give us a good deal, and why should anyone expect them to? At the moment, it appears that the EU has decided that agreeing to the UK's "red lines" is more harmful to them than a no-deal, and the only way we can change their opinion is by changing our red lines.
The fact that we are told that "give us a deal or we'll shoot ourselves in the head" is our best negotiating tactic really underlines just how weak the UK's negotiating position is, and if we won't compromise why would we expect the EU to?
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